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Rank: Advanced Fellow member Joined: 9/15/2009 Posts: 799 Neurons: 830,136 Location: Ataşehir, Istanbul, Turkey | Is there any difference in significant betwixt the two? "My family and I" "My family and me" or is "My family and me" unacceptable? |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: nine/12/2011 Posts: 35,917 Neurons: 253,722 Location: Livingston, Scotland, United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland | Hi blodybeef. Oddly (in this sentence) "my family and me" is correct. "My family and I" is wrong. The simple rule is "Remove the other people and see which is right." (My family and) I went on holiday. Could y'all take a picture show of (my family and) me? |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: seven/viii/2010 Posts: 25,999 Neurons: 105,748 | The problem is the teaching that 'me is incorrect and I is right' gets taken to centre, then people use it every bit a fixed phrase regardless of its office in the sentence. And as drago says, take that away and it is simple in this case to encounter what it should be. But that is fine - language is messy, some phrases naturally become fixed, and English case endings are such a niche surface area restricted to personal pronouns that information technology is no wonder they become a bit of a battering. It is but sorry that some people were e'er made to feel junior or uneducated for allegedly proverb the wrong thing. |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: nine/16/2015 Posts: 3,517 Neurons: 505,919 | Note the preposition "of". A preposition takes an object pronoun. The phrase "my family and I" is used when it is performance as the 'subject'. |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 4/17/2009 Posts: fourteen,069 Neurons: 730,262 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom | thar wrote: The trouble is the teaching that 'me is incorrect and I is correct' gets taken to centre, and so people use it as a fixed phrase regardless of its role in the sentence. And every bit drago says, take that abroad and it is simple in this case to see what it should exist. Only that is fine - linguistic communication is messy, some phrases naturally become fixed, and English case endings are such a niche area restricted to personal pronouns that it is no wonder they get a bit of a battering. "It is just distressing that some people were ever made to feel junior or uneducated for allegedly saying the wrong affair." So very true, thar. In fact it was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in skillful manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was immature, we were bullied into using our 'Schoolhouse English' when speaking to 'polite adults'. Nosotros were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore nosotros were too. |
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Rank: Avant-garde Member Joined: 9/12/2011 Posts: 35,917 Neurons: 253,722 Location: Livingston, Scotland, Britain | jacobusmaximus wrote: In fact it was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in good manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was young, we were bullied into using our 'School English language' when speaking to 'polite adults'. We were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore we were likewise. Yer - common and vulgar! "Don't play with those Weegies - they're mutual!" |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 4/17/2009 Posts: 14,069 Neurons: 730,262 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom | Drag0nspeaker wrote: jacobusmaximus wrote: In fact it was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in good manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was young, nosotros were bullied into using our 'Schoolhouse English language' when speaking to 'polite adults'. Nosotros were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore we were as well. Yer - common and vulgar! "Don't play with those Weegies - they're common!" Common equally muck, actually. |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 9/12/2011 Posts: 35,917 Neurons: 253,722 Location: Livingston, Scotland, Great britain | jacobusmaximus wrote: Common every bit muck, actually. Just - "Where there'southward muck, there's contumely." |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: ix/15/2009 Posts: 799 Neurons: 830,136 Location: Ataşehir, Istanbul, Turkey | Give thanks you all. Dear Drago , I always recall simpler fashion is the best selection. Quote: The simple rule is "Remove the other people and see which is right." (The simplest option? Not so much ) Dear Thar , Quote: It is but distressing that some people were ever made to experience inferior or uneducated for allegedly saying the wrong thing. I feel what you sayin'. |
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Rank: Avant-garde Member Joined: 12/v/2014 Posts: 354 Neurons: 182,214 Location: Due east Montpelier, Vermont, United States | Blodybeef wrote: Is there whatsoever difference in meaning between the two? "My family and I" "My family unit and me" or is "My family unit and me" unacceptable? The use of "I" has get a common hypergrammaticalization (the overapplication of a grammatical rule). It should exist "I" simply when the bailiwick of a sentence (or amanuensis of a sentence, depending how you learned grammar). Some people recall "I" sounds more intelligent, but that is true only if the listener doesn't know the grammar. And so, it sounds similar someone trying to exist smarter than they really are. Or it tin sound like the linguistic communication of a kid. Drag0nspeaker'south dominion is a good 1. In "Me and my sister went to the zoo", since you wouldn't say "Me went to the zoo", then me and my sister didn't get to the zoo, either. |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 7/eight/2010 Posts: 25,999 Neurons: 105,748 | Ah, but what if you did? At what bespeak does 'everybody says it' make information technology a fact of the language as spoken? In that location is hypercorrection that 'my family and I' is e'er the right thing to say, which is not true. But equally, it does seem that English uses its personal pronouns in a stock-still phrase in a different way from single subject. The saw me. They saw me and my family. They saw us. I go. Me and my family go. /My family and I go We get. 'Me and my family' becomes a fixed phrase where the personal pronoun doesn't modify. And that makes sense to people speaking a language where you don't add instance endings on to every verb. It has already happened with 'who/whom'. I remember the bulk of people would say Who did not see? not Whom did you see? or Who is the film of? not Of whom is the picture? I would but utilise 'whom' if it is immediately preceded past a preposition. Perhaps the same sort of thing works here - information technology is fine and then long as you don't disjoint it with an object pronoun with the verb. Me and my family go not My family and me go |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 9/12/2011 Posts: 35,917 Neurons: 253,722 Location: Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom | The original promotion photo for "Me and my shadow walking downwardly the avenue". [image not available] Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. |
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Rank: Newbie Joined: 5/15/2021 Posts: i Neurons: 5 Location: Chicago, Illinois, Us | Which one is the right sentence and why? "my family and me are covered" or "my family and I are covered?" |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: 9/16/2015 Posts: 3,517 Neurons: 505,919 | alkojo wrote: Which 1 is the correct sentence and why? "my family unit and me are covered" or "my family and I are covered?" _________________ Note the use of coordinating conjunction "and". It implies that you lot can split the judgement into two sentences. If y'all separate the first sentence, yous get: - "My family is covered" (correct) and "Me is covered" (incorrect). In "me is covered", "me" is the subject of the verb "is", Its use is clearly wrong. Its right version is " I am covered ". When you combine "My family is covered" and " I am covered " you get " My family and I are covered " (is + am = are) . Your second sentence is correct. |
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Rank: Advanced Member Joined: i/27/2014 Posts: 4,270 Neurons: 28,395 Location: Girona, Catalonia, Spain | Blodybeef wrote: Is at that place any difference in meaning between the two? "My family and I" "My family and me" or is "My family and me" unacceptable? Hi Blodybeef , Just my 2 cents. Could you lot take a movie of my family unit and me? Substitute "my family and me" with a pronoun, in this case an object pronoun considering we already have the discipline pronoun "you" in the question. If it fits, then you are using the right pronoun, and the resulting sentence uses "united states": Could you take a picture of united states of america? It'southward imposible to use "I" in that question because then you can't substitute it with "us", tin can yous? The same rule works for the subject pronoun. My family and I are going on vacation. Nosotros are going on vacation. Again if it fits, and then you are using the right pronoun. Though, let's await for the native speakers to correct or confirm that. |
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